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flesh!ight
08-10-2007, 06:51 AM
Over 50 killed in southern Philippines fighting<br>Deaths came after intense fighting with Muslim rebels on island of Jolo<p><A HREF="http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20209309" TARGET="_blank">http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20209309</A>/<p>thought the name was funny:<br>Discontent has also been simmering among MNLF cadres because the government is close to signing a deal with the <B> Moro Islamic Liberation Front (MILF)</B> , the country’s largest Muslim secessionist group. The MNLF says the government should first fulfill obligations due to it from the 1996 agreement.<p>The fighting started on Thursday when gunmen ambushed a group of soldiers on their way to a market in Maimbung town to buy food, local military commander Major-General Ruben Rafael said. Ten soldiers were killed and one was wounded.<p>In gunbattles later in the day, at least 16 soldiers were killed, said Major Eugene Batara, a spokesman in Zamboanga city. At least 31 rebels were killed and 25 wounded, he said. One boy was killed in crossfire.<p>

CybeRise
08-13-2007, 11:32 AM
Angry Muslims?<p>NO WAI!

J.EM1
08-13-2007, 06:10 PM
<IMG SRC="http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/7817/76072626no1.jpg" BORDER="0"><p><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Combat troops from the Philippine Army are transported on a military truck to the frontline, in the restive southern Philippine island of Jolo 13 August 2007. President Gloria Arroyo announced in Manila the military launched a new offensive against Muslim militants in Jolo. Arroyo insisted the offensive was aimed only at militants and that her government would seek to avoid a wider war and would make efforts to minimise civilian casualties. Up to 12,000 troops are now deployed on Jolo and nearby Basilan island where 40 soldiers have been killed in recent clashes and nearly 20,000 civilians have fled their homes.</TD></TR></TABLE>

El Payne
08-14-2007, 12:38 PM
"But they are a PEACEFUL religion." ~ Bleeding heart, flaming Liberals<p> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/set1/smile/emdgust.gif" BORDER="0">

PistolStarta
08-14-2007, 01:53 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>JSPayne86</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">"But they are a PEACEFUL religion." ~ Bleeding heart, flaming Liberals<p> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/set1/smile/emdgust.gif" BORDER="0"> </TD></TR></TABLE><p>Lol, hold on let me go talk about the crusades, they have a reason to be angry (end sarcasm)

El Payne
08-14-2007, 02:07 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>PistolStarta</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>Lol, hold on let me go talk about the crusades, they have a reason to be angry (end sarcasm)</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Haha seriously.<br>Lets just make sure to differentiate between Islam...<br> <IMG SRC="http://www.irfwp.org/images/library/muslim%20man.jpg" BORDER="0"> <br>and Nation of Islam...<br> <IMG SRC="http://americanart.si.edu/images/1994/1994.22.5_1b.jpg" BORDER="0"> <p> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/set1/smile/emsmilep.gif" BORDER="0">

flesh!ight
08-14-2007, 02:33 PM
one is born into it and other is converted. both militant.

El Payne
08-14-2007, 02:38 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>flesh!ight</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">one is born into it and other is converted. both militant. </TD></TR></TABLE><p>Among their superficial characteristics, yes. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/set1/smile/emsmilep.gif" BORDER="0">

AnhYeuEmMaiMai
10-16-2007, 03:46 AM
one can say that the crusades were not of Chrstian behavior. Christian means to be Christ like and Jesus taught us to stand up for what is morally right and to love our neighbors........<p>it's like saying people who bomb abortion clinics are Christian when in reality they are not. No where does Christ say in the New testament that it is OK to bomb or kill people in His or God's name.

malix
10-16-2007, 07:55 AM
Link isnt working. Page not found.<p>Edit: just realized this thread is 2 months old. that explains it. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/set1/smile/emsmilep.gif" BORDER="0">

BuckNasty
10-16-2007, 08:04 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>JSPayne86</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">"But they are a PEACEFUL religion." ~ Bleeding heart, flaming Liberals<p> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/set1/smile/emdgust.gif" BORDER="0"> </TD></TR></TABLE><p>Islam is mostly a peaceful religion. You just have your radicals that take it too the extreme, just like in every religion....

malix
10-16-2007, 08:48 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>BuckNasty</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Islam is mostly a peaceful religion. You just have your radicals that take it too the extreme, just like in every religion.... </TD></TR></TABLE><p>yeah but sometimes its easier to just generalize about a whole group of people than it is to try to understand the situation. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/set1/smile/emsmilep.gif" BORDER="0">

flesh!ight
10-16-2007, 08:52 AM
Given that Islam is one of the youngest and fastest spreading religions in the world, I'd say it is the most effect means by which a nation and society is solidified and warped. This is because the subjects of the religion [Middle East etc] are mostly war torn areas, vulnerable to any idealism that creates an us vs them scenario. Plus, Islam is so readily and easily misinterpretted by weak minds, that what results, is a highly visable and effective "radicalism."

PistolStarta
10-16-2007, 09:00 AM
Have you read all the teachings of muhammed?<p>Qur'an 5:51 "Believers, take not Jews and Christians for your friends. They are but friends and protectors to each other."<p>Qur'an:8:39 "So fight them until there is no more Fitnah (disbelief [non-Muslims]) and all submit to the religion of Allah alone (in the whole world)."<p>Qur'an:9:5 "Fight and kill the disbelievers wherever you find them, take them captive, harass them, lie in wait and ambush them using every stratagem of war."<p>Qur'an 8:69 "So enjoy what you took as booty; the spoils are lawful and good."<p>Ishaq:326 "Allah said, `No Prophet before Muhammad took booty from his enemy nor prisoners for ransom.' Muhammad said, `I was made victorious with terror. The earth was made a place for me to clean. I was given the most powerful words. Booty was made lawful for me. I was given the power to intercede. These five privileges were awarded to no prophet before me.'"<p>Tabari IX:137 "Mariyah, a Copt slave, was presented to the Prophet. She was given to him by Muqawqis, the ruler of Alexandria."<br>

PistolStarta
10-16-2007, 09:07 AM
As for the principles in practice<p>1. Islamic nations execute those who witness or proseletyze the Christian faith.<p>2. Islamic nations execute those who wish to convert from Islam to another religion.<p>3. Islam is the most misogynist religion in the world, and denies women basic human rights.<p>4. 75% of women imprisoned in the Islamic nation of Pakistan were sentenced to prison because they were raped, but failed to produce the necessary 4 witnesses to the rape, and were thus imprisoned for having sex outside of marriage.<p>5. Muslim imams in mosques across Europe and the US, routinely teach Muslims to practice jihad against the West.<p>6. Mohammed married a 6 year old and consummated the marriage when she was 9 years old, but all Muslims believe his life to be the perfect example for all.<p>7. Mohammed personally led 27 raids against his enemies, leading his followers into battle--this from the leader of the "religion of peace."<p>8. On more than one occasion, Mohammed gave orders to have his captured enemies beheaded.<p>9. Mohammed specifically stated it is permissible for Muslims to lie to, and break treaties with, nonMuslims.<p>10. Muslim leaders and imams, throughout the Middle East, praise and encourage Palestinians to commit suicide with explosives and murder innocent women and children while doing so.<br>

malix
10-16-2007, 10:29 AM
If we are going to copy & paste stuff, how about giving a link to the source too? <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/set1/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0"> <br>

PistolStarta
10-16-2007, 10:34 AM
You need me to source the Koran?<p>All of the second pieces of information are cited from the Book "The truth about Muhammed"

BuckNasty
10-16-2007, 10:49 AM
As for the principles in practice<p>1.Islamic nations execute those who witness or proseletyze the Christian faith.<p>Only practiced by radicals. Places like Dubai have openly embraced haivng other religions within the country. <p>2. Islamic nations execute those who wish to convert from Islam to another religion.<p>I will have to see this one. I dount doubt it, But I do need to see it to believe it. <p>3. Islam is the most misogynist religion in the world, and denies women basic human rights.<p>Yea. They probably are. <p>4. 75% of women imprisoned in the Islamic nation of Pakistan were sentenced to prison because they were raped, but failed to produce the necessary 4 witnesses to the rape, and were thus imprisoned for having sex outside of marriage.<p>Ok. <p>5. Muslim imams in mosques across Europe and the US, routinely teach Muslims to practice jihad against the West.<p>They are Preaching <B>RADICAL</B> Islam. Again, this is counter to what most conservative muslims practice. <p>6. Mohammed married a 6 year old and consummated the marriage when she was 9 years old, but all Muslims believe his life to be the perfect example for all.<p>I just said they werent violent. Did say anything about them being homos. Hey every religion has 'em<p>7. Mohammed personally led 27 raids against his enemies, leading his followers into battle--this from the leader of the "religion of peace."<p>That was back in a ancient and fuedal era where there was a bunch of nomadic tribes and nation-states in the area that were all trying to attain power. Fights are inevitable, right? <p>8. On more than one occasion, Mohammed gave orders to have his captured enemies beheaded.<p>Dont doubt this. Again, look at the times they were in. Nobody was civilized back then...<p>9. Mohammed specifically stated it is permissible for Muslims to lie to, and break treaties with, nonMuslims.<p>That's two-faced, not violent. <p>10. Muslim leaders and imams, throughout the Middle East, praise and encourage Palestinians to commit suicide with explosives and murder innocent women and children while doing so.<p>Again Preaching by <B>RADICAL</B> Islam. Not the mainstream. The Qu'ran explicitly forbid muslims to kill women and children. But if you interpret it a different way (radically) you can make is approve just about anything. <p>If you want proof, I'll post it up tomorrow or something. Im gettin all of this first hand from books...

malix
10-16-2007, 11:39 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>PistolStarta</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You need me to source the Koran?</TD></TR></TABLE><p>No, but a link to wherever you got that list of quotes from would be nice. <p><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>PistolStarta</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">All of the second pieces of information are cited from the Book "The truth about Muhammed" </TD></TR></TABLE><p>"The Truth About Muhammad: Founder of the World's Most Intolerant Religion"<p>Nice. Find that one on the Conservative Book Club?<p><A HREF="https://www.conservativebookclub.com/Join/SingleBookJoin.asp?sour_cd=sb127az&prod_cd=c6959" TARGET="_blank">https://www.conservativebookcl...c6959</A><p>Im not going to argue over specifics of what the book says, but do you really think this is an unbiased and objective look at Islam?

PistolStarta
10-16-2007, 12:26 PM
No, Its ranked number 2 on amazon.com under muslims <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/set1/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0"> Sorry you can't trust a book that was written based upon the writings of fake prophet <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/set1/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>Unbiased look? Read the versus from the Koran there guy. You're always such one for credible sources its in their main texts of teaching.

PistolStarta
10-16-2007, 12:28 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>malix</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>"The Truth About Muhammad: Founder of the World's Most Intolerant Religion"<p>Nice. Find that one on the Conservative Book Club?<p><A HREF="https://www.conservativebookclub.com/Join/SingleBookJoin.asp?sour_cd=sb127az&prod_cd=c6959" TARGET="_blank">https://www.conservativebookcl...c6959</A><p>Im not going to argue over specifics of what the book says, but do you really think this is an unbiased and objective look at Islam? </TD></TR></TABLE><p>You didnt even read the book, I did so how would you know. The book is written solely on the teachings and writings of the Muslim texts as well as on Muhammeds life, you cant split hairs on the versus I provided so trying to bring "conservative" into it was a retarded thing to say. Especially when I'm viewing it from a logical religious point and not political.

PistolStarta
10-16-2007, 12:35 PM
Also, to BuckNasty, I agree with you're statements and was not generalizing all muslims, I was merely stating the brutality of the religions teachings practiced.

El Payne
10-16-2007, 02:55 PM
It's unfortunate that goofballs think because something is related to anything "conservative" it is vastly biased. When are they going to learn that "conservative" might just be "right"? <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/set1/smile/emwink.gif" BORDER="0">

malix
10-16-2007, 04:21 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>PistolStarta</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Also, to BuckNasty, I agree with you're statements and was not generalizing all muslims, I was merely stating the brutality of the religions teachings practiced.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>It sounded to me like you were saying that applied to the entire faith. <p><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>PistolStarta</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>You didnt even read the book, I did so how would you know. The book is written solely on the teachings and writings of the Muslim texts as well as on Muhammeds life, you cant split hairs on the versus I provided so trying to bring "conservative" into it was a retarded thing to say. Especially when I'm viewing it from a logical religious point and not political.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>You might not have been approaching it from a political point of view, but was the author? Some of those points you quoted sound to me like he's talking about things that were common practice at that time, but might seem shocking to us today. You could really put together a list like that about Christianity if you took enough things out of context.<p>I'll admit i dont know enough about the Koran to refute all those points, but i'd be willing to bet that if you talked to a practicing muslim they would tell you the majority of those arent true. At least not in the way that they are being implied.<p><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>JSPayne86</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">It's unfortunate that goofballs think because something is related to anything "conservative" it is vastly biased. When are they going to learn that "conservative" might just be "right"? </TD></TR></TABLE><p>LOL this from the guy who doesnt believe a word the UN says and thinks Fox is the only unbiased news source. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/set1/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0"> <BR><BR>
<i>Modified by malix at 5:57 PM 10/16/2007</i>

El Payne
10-16-2007, 06:53 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>malix</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">LOL this from the guy who doesnt believe a word the UN says and thinks Fox is the only unbiased news source. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/set1/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0"> </TD></TR></TABLE><p>"LOL" this from the guy who believes the french-loving, tree-hugging UN and thinks Ron Paul is a real conservative/republican/something rediculous. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/set1/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0">

PistolStarta
10-16-2007, 08:56 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>malix</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> <p>You might not have been approaching it from a political point of view, but was the author? Some of those points you quoted sound to me like he's talking about things that were common practice at that time, but might seem shocking to us today. You could really put together a list like that about Christianity if you took enough things out of context.<p>I'll admit i dont know enough about the Koran to refute all those points, but i'd be willing to bet that if you talked to a practicing muslim they would tell you the majority of those arent true. At least not in the way that they are being implied.<p><i>Modified by malix at 5:57 PM 10/16/2007</i></TD></TR></TABLE><p>Arent true? Its written in plain text, IF we were comparing Christianity and Islam, I'd like one example of Jesus marrying a child, telling people to deny others of different faiths, encouraging lying to others of different faith, nor tells people to fight non believers of their God to the death. <p>Please be my guest and take any bible verse out of context where that happens I'd be glad to let you know what it means. Unfortunately you can't and you cant refute plain writing or actions<p>EDIT : Oh, and to touch on this once more, you bitched in the other thread about hating labels and what they portray, but then tried to discredit a source based on a label put out by ANOTHER source which chooses to carry a book. Good call

AnhYeuEmMaiMai
10-16-2007, 09:17 PM
You know what, The god of Islam is a false god........God does not need anyone to do his work....There are gonna be a lot of shocked people when the sky splits and Jesus comes back again.<p>I personally believe that it is just like the Bible teaches, Christians will be hated, hunted and killed for their faith......it is happening now but yet people look the other way......<p>It is EXTREMELY disheartning to see what is going on in the world today but the good news is, the end is near and Christians should rejoice since they will be with Christ soon.<p>it is funny how you can pull the quotes directly from the Kuran(SP?) and people STILL are blinded to the true meaning of this religion.... according to Islam there can only be peace when EVERYONE converts to Islam and or all the non believers are killed.

PistolStarta
10-16-2007, 09:59 PM
Its the same reason a muslim can say "well during the crusades christians like you killed thousands of muslims" But if you said "Muslims murder women and children with suicide bombings" then it will be refuted as just "radicals". So let me get this straight, you wouldnt call Crusaders going on killing sprees radical?<p>My point is their TEACHINGS encourage this behaviour, Christianity does not and will not ever condone acts like this. <p>Its Koran in English and Quran in actual text. I'll see you on the other side brother <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/set1/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0">

AnhYeuEmMaiMai
10-16-2007, 11:41 PM
I would consider them radical but definately NOT Christian.<p>If someone bombs an abortion clinic and claims to be Christian, it is almost immediately and with a loud voice that the Christian community rebukes them and goes to great lenghts to explain why they are not Chrisitan

El Payne
10-17-2007, 12:14 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>PistolStarta</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">behaviour</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Are we English all the sudden? <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/set1/smile/emsmilep.gif" BORDER="0">

PistolStarta
10-17-2007, 05:00 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>JSPayne86</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>Are we English all the sudden? <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/set1/smile/emsmilep.gif" BORDER="0"> </TD></TR></TABLE><p>haha, I spell Theater Theatre, I dunno why just always have

El Payne
10-17-2007, 07:28 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>PistolStarta</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>haha, I spell Theater Theatre, I dunno why just always have</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Haha, it's cool. Not that I care, just thought it was kind of funny.

flesh!ight
10-17-2007, 08:12 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>PistolStarta</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>haha, I spell Theater Theatre, I dunno why just always have</TD></TR></TABLE> IMPERIALIST PIG!! <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/set1/smile/emsmilep.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>no but seriously,<p>Scenario 1<p>a Christian leader gets up and talks shit and makes the religion look bad. What happens? A million other Christians get up and protest how this leader is wrong and misrepresenting them.<p>Scenario 2<p>an Islamic leader gets up declares Holy War on the rest of the world cuz anything newer than the 12th century is evil. What happens? NOTHING NOT A GODDAMN ONE says anything to oppose his rhetoric. And yet people bitch when they get typecasted. Well, Maybe if you said something about it instead of keeping your mouth shut in fear and ignorance.<p>You wonder why people on airplanes and trains are suspicious of muslims. Make the moderates heard. Stand up for yourself goddamnit. wtf is wrong with people today. Holy shit.

PistolStarta
10-17-2007, 08:17 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>flesh!ight</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> <br>an Islamic leader gets up declares Holy War on the rest of the world cuz anything newer than the 12th century is evil. What happens? NOTHING NOT A GODDAMN ONE says anything to oppose his rhetoric. And yet people bitch when they get typecasted. Well, Maybe if you said something about it instead of keeping your mouth shut in fear and ignorance.<p>You wonder why people on airplanes and trains are suspicious of muslims. Make the moderates heard. Stand up for yourself goddamnit. wtf is wrong with people today. Holy shit. </TD></TR></TABLE><p>Because they're taught its okay, regardless of if they support it. I'm sorry yes, every religion has its nut jobs, but in no other religion is that violence based on the teachings of its profit, like it is in Islam.

FUCATYPR
10-17-2007, 08:33 AM
005.082 <br>Strongest among men in enmity to the believers wilt thou find the Jews and Pagans; and nearest among them in love to the believers wilt thou find those who say, "We are Christians": because amongst these are men devoted to learning and men who have renounced the world, and they are not arrogant.<p><br><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>AnhYeuEmMaiMai</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You know what, The god of Islam is a false god........God does not need anyone to do his work....There are gonna be a lot of shocked people when the sky splits and Jesus comes back again.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>what about Moses???<p><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>AnhYeuEmMaiMai</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>......but the good news is, the end is near and Christians should rejoice since they will be with Christ soon.<p></TD></TR></TABLE><p>and you say Muslims are crazy???<p>

PistolStarta
10-17-2007, 08:40 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>FUCATYPR</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">005.082 <p>what about Moses???<p><B>Moses is reviered as a mainly Jewish Profit, but what about him?</B><p>and you say Muslims are crazy???<p><B>If you don't believe in the end of days, look at the deterioration of society. Watch the news and see them unfold. In the Bible Jesus said after the persecution of the Jews, Israel would come into great status (now the richest and most fruitfull middle eastern nation, with constatly rising exports). He also spoke of the alliances of Evil nations taking arms against Israel (The modern day Iran/Russian alliance). It also outlined how Iraq will not be part of this anti-israel war (Iraq no longer is run by anti-jewish radicals) and how Egypt will not be included in this war (formerly an extremely anti-jewish country, now has trading routes and peace treaties with Isreal)<p>The puzzle is coming together, no one needs to be crazy here.</B><br></TD></TR></TABLE>

flesh!ight
10-17-2007, 09:16 AM
im not spewing hate here. I'm just pointing out that the worldwide muslim movement is making it very difficult for me to discern between their "extremist" movements and their religious teachings and structure as a whole.<p>Do me a favor and wiki: Salman Rushdie.<p>This guy wrote a fictional book that had a chapter about a guy hallucinating that he re-wrote the Koran under the guidance of the devil. The ayatollahs proclaimed a Jihad on Salman and a million dollar bounty on his head. He's had several attempts on his life. 2 of the translators for this book [the Satanic Verses] were murdered as a result. for fucks sake, the guy converted to Islam as a method of atonement and they still want his ass dead.<p>FUCKING READ ABOUT HIM. seriously.

FUCATYPR
10-17-2007, 09:57 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>flesh!ight</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">im not spewing hate here. I'm just pointing out that the worldwide muslim movement is making it very difficult for me to discern between their "extremist" movements and their religious teachings and structure as a whole.<p></TD></TR></TABLE><p>You think any of that might have to do with the portrayal of Muslims in the media???<p><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>JSPayne86</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">It's unfortunate that goofballs think because something is related to anything "conservative" it is vastly biased. When are they going to learn that "conservative" might just be "right"? </TD></TR></TABLE><p>Would Jesus be a conservative??? <p>I think christians should ask themselves, what would Jesus do

PistolStarta
10-17-2007, 10:00 AM
Holy crap, answer something I have said

flesh!ight
10-17-2007, 10:09 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>FUCATYPR</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>You think any of that might have to do with the portrayal of Muslims in the media???<br></TD></TR></TABLE><br>It has to do with the lack of a visable and vocal opposition to all the terrorist rhetoric from inside their religious groups. Regardless of the media slant, there SHOULD be a more visable show of force to strike down these "misinterpretations" of the faith. Look at England. Nothing.

FUCATYPR
10-17-2007, 10:40 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>PistolStarta</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Holy crap, answer something I have said</TD></TR></TABLE><p><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>PistolStarta</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">If you don't believe in the end of days, look at the deterioration of society.<B> Watch the news </B>and see them unfold. In the Bible Jesus said after the persecution of the Jews, Israel would come into great status (now the richest and most fruitfull middle eastern nation, with constatly rising exports). He also spoke of the alliances of Evil nations taking arms against Israel (The modern day Iran/Russian alliance). It also outlined how Iraq will not be part of this anti-israel war (Iraq no longer is run by anti-jewish radicals) and how Egypt will not be included in this war (formerly an extremely anti-jewish country, now has trading routes and peace treaties with Isreal)<p>The puzzle is coming together, no one needs to be crazy here.<p></TD></TR></TABLE><p>If my fortune cookie tells me I'm going to go home and kill my and I do, was the fortune cookie right or did I read it and say, sounds like a good idea??

PistolStarta
10-17-2007, 10:48 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>FUCATYPR</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><br>If my fortune cookie tells me I'm going to go home and kill my and I do, was the fortune cookie right or did I read it and say, sounds like a good idea??</TD></TR></TABLE><p>What the hell are you talking about

ActiveAero
10-18-2007, 01:56 AM
Arguing about one religion vs another is like arguing about who's the most retarded. <p>This is coming from a guy who was a Christian for 23 years, saved and even baptised in a creek. Christianity, Islam, etc are all equally a bunch of shit. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/set1/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0">

PistolStarta
10-18-2007, 05:01 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>ActiveAero</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Arguing about one religion vs another is like arguing about who's the most retarded. <p>This is coming from a guy who was a Christian for 23 years, saved and even baptised in a creek. Christianity, Islam, etc are all equally a bunch of shit. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/set1/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0"> </TD></TR></TABLE><p>Well thank you for providing information regarding your decision. Unfortunately if you aren't a Christian now, you never were <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/set1/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>Next time provide us something that actually pertains to the conversation instead of this.

malix
10-18-2007, 07:29 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>PistolStarta</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">My point is their TEACHINGS encourage this behaviour, Christianity does not and will not ever condone acts like this. </TD></TR></TABLE><p>Its all about interpretation. Some christians believe that the bible tells them to literally handle venomous snakes and drink poison, but obviously you cant hold the entire faith responsible for that.<p>Like i was saying earlier, its pretty easy to pick out some quotes that can be interpreted in several different ways, especially if they are pulled out of context.<p><I>"And I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man, but to be in silence."</I> 1 Timothy 2:12<p><I>“Now therefore, kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman who has known man intimately. But all the girls who have not known man intimately, spare for yourselves.” </I> Numbers 31:17-18<p><I>"For every one that curseth his father or his mother shall be surely put to death: he hath cursed his father or his mother; his blood shall be upon him." </I>Leviticus 20:9<p><I>"When you march up to attack a city, make its people an offer of peace. If they accept and open their gates, all the people in it shall be subject to forced labor and shall work for you. If they refuse to make peace and they engage you in battle, lay siege to that city. When the LORD your God delivers it into your hand, put to the sword all the men in it. As for the women, the children, the livestock and everything else in the city, you may take these as plunder for yourselves. And you may use the plunder the LORD your God gives you from your enemies. This is how you are to treat all the cities that are at a distance from you and do not belong to the nations nearby. <p> However, in the cities of the nations the LORD your God is giving you as an inheritance, do not leave alive anything that breathes. Completely destroy [a] them—the Hittites, Amorites, Canaanites, Perizzites, Hivites and Jebusites—as the LORD your God has commanded you."</I> Deuteronomy 20:10-17<p><I>"There she lusted after her lovers, whose genitals were like those of donkeys and whose emission was like that of horses."</I> Ezekiel 23:20<p><I>“Do not think that I have come to send peace on earth. I did not come to send peace, but a sword. I am sent to set a man against his father, a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law”</I> Matthew 10:34-35<p><br><I>“And he should go and worship other gods and bow down to them or to the sun or the moon or all the army of the heavens, .....and you must stone such one with stones and such one must die.”</I> Deuteronomy 17:3-5 <p>I could keep going but i think you get the point. Its just as easy to portray Christianity (or any other religion for that matter) as violent or misogynistic by picking out a few quotes. Those were harsh times back then, obviously a lot of the stuff that happened could be considered shocking to our modern views.

PistolStarta
10-18-2007, 07:37 AM
Which of the quotes you bring was spoken by Jesus.

PistolStarta
10-18-2007, 07:42 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>malix</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p><I>“Do not think that I have come to send peace on earth. I did not come to send peace, but a sword. I am sent to set a man against his father, a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law”</I> Matthew 10:34-35<p>I could keep going but i think you get the point. Its just as easy to portray Christianity (or any other religion for that matter) as violent or misogynistic by picking out a few quotes. Those were harsh times back then, obviously a lot of the stuff that happened could be considered shocking to our modern views. </TD></TR></TABLE> <p>This is the only verse provided which Jesus actually spoke (our prophet and the basis for Christianity) which you provided. Texts in the old Testament are much more violent and often oppose the Teachings of Jesus because they portray the world before Christs intervention. <p>My quotes were all provided from the Mouth of Muhammed, the Prohpet of Islam. Not excerpts from an Islamic texts.<p>Edit: Oh and in this verse, what he means is you will be persecuted by your own family for your beliefs in christ. Which holds true then and today.

BuckNasty
10-18-2007, 07:43 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>malix</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Its all about interpretation.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>BINGO. What i've said from the beginning. Everyone keeps talking about how the Qu'ran condones violence, but, again it's all interpretation. If you interpret it that way, then yeah it does say you can kill women and children, use car bombs, anthrax, etc. But again those who interpret it that way are fewer than the more conservative mass that exists.

PistolStarta
10-18-2007, 07:51 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>BuckNasty</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>BINGO. What i've said from the beginning. Everyone keeps talking about how the Qu'ran condones violence, but, again it's all interpretation. If you interpret it that way, then yeah it does say you can kill women and children, use car bombs, anthrax, etc. But again those who interpret it that way are fewer than the more conservative mass that exists. </TD></TR></TABLE><p>On CNN last night they said 10% of muslims are regarded as Radical, thats actually a very high percent considering only 20% of Germans considered themselves nazis

malix
10-18-2007, 07:55 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>PistolStarta</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> Edit: Oh and in this verse, what he means is you will be persecuted by your own family for your beliefs in christ. Which holds true then and today.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>See now you are giving your particular interpretation of that quote, the same as any muslim would give you about the quotes you posted. Different people can have very different interpretations of the same quotes, and im sure some Christians would disagree with you on this one.<p><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>PistolStarta</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">On CNN last night they said 10% of muslims are regarded as Radical, thats actually a very high percent considering only 20% of Germans considered themselves nazis</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Thats pretty hard to believe when over 40% of them voted for the Nazi party in 1932.

PistolStarta
10-18-2007, 08:00 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>malix</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>See now you are giving your particular interpretation of that quote, the same as any muslim would give you about the quotes you posted. Different people can have very different interpretations of the same quotes, and im sure some Christians would disagree with you on this one.<p><B>So if this be the case, and you're just being logical, where are the 10% of Christians killing muslims, where my newage crusade?</B><p>Thats pretty hard to believe when over 40% of them voted for the Nazi party in 1932.<p><B>Ok, well george Bush won the vote to, also that was prior to war starting. Im just stating what was said.</B><br></TD></TR></TABLE>

malix
10-18-2007, 08:09 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>PistolStarta</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">So if this be the case, and you're just being logical, where are the 10% of Christians killing muslims, where my newage crusade?</TD></TR></TABLE><p>They're in the White House. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/set1/smile/emsmilep.gif" BORDER="0">

PistolStarta
10-18-2007, 08:12 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>malix</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>They're in the White House. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/set1/smile/emsmilep.gif" BORDER="0"> </TD></TR></TABLE><p>Uh okay, to bad every liberal will call themselves one in the right setting as well. About how all the versus were not spoke by my prophet, what about that?

malix
10-18-2007, 08:31 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>PistolStarta</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Uh okay, to bad every liberal will call themselves one in the right setting as well.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>What? Im not really sure what you mean by that.<p> <TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>PistolStarta</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">About how all the versus were not spoke by my prophet, what about that? </TD></TR></TABLE><p>I think its splitting hairs to be honest. When the passage talks about killing and ends with "as the Lord your God has commanded you." like the Deuteronomy quote did then that is part of the teachings of that particular religion. Whether it was actually spoken by Jesus or through someone else is irrelevant.

PistolStarta
10-18-2007, 08:35 AM
BECAUSE THOSE QUOTES WERE BEFORE THE KING OF PEACE WAS BORN. How is it irrelavent when the prophet the religion your speaking on hasnt even been born yet? Its not part of the teaching of the religion if the basis if CHRISTianity is based in someone who isnt alive yet. <p>Its for the same reason in the old testament it says dont cut the hair on the sides of your head, or eat meat with blood still in it. It no longer pertains because Christ came about and changed the laws, hance the basis of Christanity. Its all that is irrelevant.<p>About the democrats, Democrats will also claim to be Christians and have themselves went to war, it has nothing to do with it. Nice poke at politics once again tho.

flesh!ight
10-18-2007, 09:02 AM
this is all irrelevant. Characterized by their current state, given that people in this day and age have the greatest access to information about what is being spoonfed to them yet still refuse to see the futility in their ways, this is an extremely oppressive religion. Most religions are, but Islam takes the fucking cake. game over.

ActiveAero
10-18-2007, 03:27 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>PistolStarta</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>Well thank you for providing information regarding your decision. Unfortunately if you aren't a Christian now, you never were <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/set1/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>Next time provide us something that actually pertains to the conversation instead of this.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Actually it's completely relevant to the discussion. Both of them are completely fabricated stories made up by man and therefore trying to definitely argue about what each one is stating is pointless and retarded.<p>People of each one's OWN religion can't even agree on what there religion says so what makes you think you can lol?<p><br>And of course you would use the "you were never a Christian then" comment. If that isn't a man made protection tactic developed into the religion I don't know what is. That statement even being accepted by Christians should be proof enough to anyone thinking logically that belief in any religion over another is just retarded. <br>

El Payne
10-18-2007, 03:55 PM
Liberals always seem to resort to the "well that's what you people always say" response. <br>Apparently they have no better relevant comment to make.

ActiveAero
10-18-2007, 05:02 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>JSPayne86</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Liberals always seem to resort to the "well that's what you people always say" response. <br>Apparently they have no better relevant comment to make. </TD></TR></TABLE><p>Well thank goodness I'm not a "liberal".

El Payne
10-18-2007, 06:31 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>ActiveAero</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>Well thank goodness I'm not a "liberal". </TD></TR></TABLE><p>And Tom Cruise doesn't think he's a weirdo. Funny world.

ActiveAero
10-18-2007, 06:34 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>JSPayne86</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><br>Funny world.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Yes it is. We now have nut jobs equating religious beliefs, or lack thereof, to ones political view points. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/set1//smile/emcrook.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>"OMG he doesn't believe in Jesus nor drive a monster truck....he must be a liberal!!!!!"

El Payne
10-18-2007, 06:44 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>ActiveAero</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>Yes it is. We now have nut jobs equating religious beliefs, or lack thereof, to ones political view points. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/set1//smile/emcrook.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>"OMG he doesn't believe in Jesus nor drive a monster truck....he must be a liberal!!!!!"</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Fellow, I never said anything about you not believing in Jesus.<p>...or driving a bitchin' monster truck like me. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/set1/smile/emsmilep.gif" BORDER="0">

PistolStarta
10-18-2007, 08:43 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>ActiveAero</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Actually it's completely relevant to the discussion. Both of them are completely fabricated stories made up by man and therefore trying to definitely argue about what each one is stating is pointless and retarded.<p>People of each one's OWN religion can't even agree on what there religion says so what makes you think you can lol?<p><br>And of course you would use the "you were never a Christian then" comment. If that isn't a man made protection tactic developed into the religion I don't know what is. That statement even being accepted by Christians should be proof enough to anyone thinking logically that belief in any religion over another is just retarded. </TD></TR></TABLE><p>Nothing you say even means anything, you're a walking zeitgeist movie, congrats.

ActiveAero
10-18-2007, 09:57 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>PistolStarta</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><br>Nothing you say even means anything, you're a walking zeitgeist movie, congrats.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Because I don't believe in Christianity I'm now a walking zeitgeist movie lol?<p>You two are freaking insane. <p>

PistolStarta
10-19-2007, 05:08 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>ActiveAero</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>Because I don't believe in Christianity I'm now a walking zeitgeist movie lol?<p>You two are freaking insane. <p></TD></TR></TABLE><p>Your main point was we cant agree on what our own religion says. Name one written item read by millions of people that all agree on what it says. Its not freaking possible genious. <p>Yes, I'm using tactics for Christianity, seriously get a life. I actually ripped it off from a Straight Edge bumper sticker. Unfortunately Christianity doesnt teach defensive tactics it teaches acceptance.<p>Don't come in here and say something that would trigger a defense when clearly were talking about teachings (fabricated or not) then call me insane. Dunce

malix
10-19-2007, 08:17 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>PistolStarta</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">About the democrats, Democrats will also claim to be Christians and have themselves went to war, it has nothing to do with it. Nice poke at politics once again tho. </TD></TR></TABLE><p>America happens to have quite a large population of religious fundamentalists so running as an atheist certainly isnt going to help you. Besides, i dont remember any Democrats saying that God told them to invade other countries, do you?

PistolStarta
10-19-2007, 08:44 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>malix</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>America happens to have quite a large population of religious fundamentalists so running as an atheist certainly isnt going to help you. Besides, i dont remember any Democrats saying that God told them to invade other countries, do you?</TD></TR></TABLE><p>No, did I say that? Again with the GWB rhetoric.

flesh!ight
10-19-2007, 08:58 AM
per capita, England has a far larger number of muslims. In 10yrs or less, the most popular name for boys in England will be Mohammad. And their population is nowhere nearly as integrated into main society as ours.

BuckNasty
10-19-2007, 09:03 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>flesh!ight</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">per capita, England has a far larger number of muslims. In 10yrs or less, the most popular name for boys in England will be Mohammad. And their population is nowhere nearly as integrated into main society as ours. </TD></TR></TABLE><p>Yes, probably, and yes.

FUCATYPR
10-19-2007, 10:00 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>ActiveAero</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>You two are freaking insane. <p></TD></TR></TABLE><p>that's the point I was trying to make<p>

PistolStarta
10-19-2007, 10:03 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>FUCATYPR</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>that's the point I was trying to make<p></TD></TR></TABLE><p>You said like 3 freaking sentences one of which was directed by way, so good job on your point I suppose. *insert random fortune cookie reference to try to validate something*

El Payne
10-20-2007, 12:48 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>PistolStarta</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">*insert random fortune cookie reference to try to validate something*</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Someone will invite you to a Karaoke party.<p>3 7 13 19 22 46 59

PistolStarta
10-20-2007, 04:40 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>JSPayne86</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Someone will invite you to a Karaoke party.<p>3 7 13 19 22 46 59</TD></TR></TABLE><p>hahahahahahaha